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be NO Ww ws Oo OY ~] oO Ke) a oO he be No (ee) = Hs Oo _ OY a ~] a oO a Ke} 20 21 22 23 24 25 Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE M6SQmaxl evidence. MS. MOE: Ez that, and I don't Document 737 No, mean THE COURT: Bu conspiracy was going on think -- and tell me Lt your Honor. to be -- Filed 07/22/22 the conspiracy was still live at the end of Page 23 of 101 23 I think our point is that and we know 2004, that because in fact the conspiracy was still ongoing beyond t, see, just beyond that, in that sentenc what you point to, should look at something else, , th but what you point to to make that argument is definitionally non-conspiracy conduct. MS. MOE: Ez step back and discuss the is whether a conspiracy was still ongoing that she withdraw question is in No, the key thought tells us it's the det framing it, your Honor, framing of know that it was still live as of because, continually going to age 18, and 2005. The government conspirator took an act among other reasons, in part becaus the issue. well, to The question throughout 2004. And Fendant's burden to show from the conspiracy if when did this conspiracy end. the end of it was ongoing. The We 2004, in fact, Carolyn tes Epstein's house thro which would have been throughout the duration of tified that she was ugh age 17 and through 2004 is not required to show that any tion in between those specific dates because the question is when did the conspiracy terminate? Was it still live at the end of 2004? And th vidence here shows SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C.-» (212) 805-0300 DOJ-OGR-00011542