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Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 741 ‘Filed 08/10/22 Page 104 of 106 117 LBTVMAX5 1 have papers, so we will have to tab through the binder 2 ourselves; so there may be delays on our end. But that process 3 is fine with us, if that's how the defense would like to 4 proceed. a THE COURT: All right. Look, if it's just a single 6 piece of paper, for example, with a name, let's just use the 7 paper. 8 MR. EVERDELL: Yes. 9 THE COURT: And otherwise, as said, we'll try it 10 this way. It sounds like there may be efficiencies, there may 11 not be, but we'll try it just with the caution that I have 12 granted anonymity. And so given the layout of the room, 13 don't want the -- although the names of the witnesses will be 14 known to the jurors, they should not be published to the 15 courtroom. 16 MR. EVERDELL: We'll try and be very mindful of this, 17 your Honor. That's why we are trying to think through this 18 carefully. Before the cross starts, I'll put the paper binder 19 in the witness box for the witness in case paper has to be 20 used, even though that's a backup option. And I wi put the 21 manila folders under the jurors' chairs and they will be 22 instructed not to look at them until the time is appropriate. 23 THE COURT: Okay. And so the government has 24 binders -- are you going to collect those binders for the 25 evening? SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212%) 805-0220 DOJ-OGR-00011769