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be N Ww ws Oo OY ~] oO WO a oO he be N Ww = Hs Oo a OY a ~] a oO a Ke) 20 21 22 23 24 25 Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 743 Filed 08/10/22 Page 138 of 247 266 LBUCmax3 Visoski - cross over the years in the 2000s, as well, weren't there? A. There was many, yes. Q. Now, you testified that by 2004 or so, to the best of your recollection, Ghislaine was traveling much less frequently on Epstein's planes; isn't that right? A. Yes. Q. She was moving on from Epstein, was she not? A. That's correct. Q. Isn't it true that by 2004, Ghislaine was in a committed relationship with another man? A. Yes. QO. You're familiar with Ted Waitt? A. Yes, I am. Q. He's the cofounder of Gateway Incorporated, the computer company, isn't he? A. That's correct. Q. And Ghislaine was in a relationship with Ted Waitt by 2004, wasn't she? A. I don't know if it was a relationship, but I know she was spending a lot of time with Mr. Waitt, and I think he was completing a boat that she was involved in decorating and building a helipad on it. So it was a different transfer to Mr. Weight. Q. And, in fact, I think Ghislaine introduced you to Waitt's pilots, you guys became friends? SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 DOJ-OGR-00011910