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be N Ww ws Oo OY ~] oO WO a oO he be N Ww = Hs Oo a OY a ~] a oO a Ke) 20 21 22 23 24 25 Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 743 Filed 08/10/22 Page 144 of 247 272 LBUVMAX4 Visoski - cross hiking? A. That would be a first choice, yes. Q. And that would be recommended for any guest who wanted to go hiking, right? A. Yes. Correct. Q. Okay. Thank you. And I'll just say, I was reminded by the court reporter that we shouldn't talk over each other, so I'll try not to do it and we'll do the same, okay? A. Yes. Q. Thank you. All right. I want to talk to you a bit about your enter actions with Ghislaine. A. Okay. Q. You testified that you first met Ghislaine in about 1991, when you started to work for Mr. Epstein, right? A. That's correct. Q. And Ghislaine would have been about 29 or 30 years or so when you first met her? A. Yes. Q. And Epstein would have been about 37 or 38 at the time; is that right? A. That is right. Q. And you said that Ghislaine flew on numerous flights with you in the 1990s and 2000s, right? SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 DOJ-OGR-00011916