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be N Ww ws Oo OY ~] oO WO a oO = be N Ww = Hs Oo a OY a ~] a oO a Ke) 20 21 22 23 24 25 Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 743 Filed 08/10/22 Page 148 of 247 276 LBUVMAX4 Visoski - cross A. Sure, it was. QO. You had to drive, take the course, talk to the instructor, drive back, all that took about a day, right? A. Yes. Q. So it's fair to say she was away from the Palm Beach residence for the whole day when she was taking these courses, right? A. Yes, good chance, yes. Q. And that helicopter course that she took took about eight months to a year to complete, isn't that right? A. Yes. QO. That course took a fair amount of time, didn't it? A. Took a lot of time, yes. Q. And it goes without saying that at the time, the time that Ghislaine spent at those training sessions in Pompano Beach, she was not at Epstein's residence in Palm Beach, isn't that right? A. That's a correct assumption. Q. Now, you also accompanied Ghislaine to a different helicopter training school in Dallas, Texas; is that right? A. That's correct. Q. Do you remember when that was? A. It was definitely once a year, because we were required to go back for recurrent training. But don't know the dates, but it was definitely once a year we would go to Dallas for SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 DOJ-OGR-00011920