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be NO Ww ws Oo OY ~] oO Ke) a oO he be No (ee) = Hs Oo _ OY a ~] a oO a Ke} 20 21 22 23 24 25 Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 747 Al ssl Filed 08/10/22 Direct Page 127 of 228 803 who did you see them interact with, t, if any, trips did you personally take to any of LC2VMAX4 house. Q. And A. Mr. Epstein and Ms. O Wha Mr. Eps A. Yes. New Mexico. 10 ae 1O aes Ms. 1O aes Maxwell. I took a trip to the ranch, tein's other properties? I'm going to stop you there. There was supposed to be -—- if anyone? Zorro Ranch in Santa Fe, About when did you go to New Mexico? I would say 1994, Maxwell and Mr. Yes, they did. Q. What did they say? A. They said it lady was going homes how to clean the houses. "OS. Who invited you to travel to Zorro Ranch? Epstein. Q. How did you travel symposium? A. I fly commercial Mexico. ranch. from West to teach all the personnel of Did they tell you why they wanted you to come to the ranch? t was going to be like a symposium. And this the different from Florida to New Mexico for that Palm Beach to Albuquerque, New And I was picked up by the house ranch manager at the Q. What did the ranch look like when you visited it? A. Oh, it was a huge, h uge property. I don't remember how SOUTH ERN D STR CT REPORT ERS, (212) 805-0300 PG ew DOJ-OGR-00012412