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To: Joseph Thakuria
Subject: Re: Jeffrey Epstein-Invoice?
Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2014 12:40:46 +0000
Hi Joe. Following up with you ... When do you think you might have an invoice ready for Jeffrey? I would love
to be able to give him an idea.
Thanks so very much, Lesley
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On Dec 20, 2013, at 3:01 PM, Joseph Thakuria
Hi Lesley,
> wrote:
Sony about the delay on this. Things have been more hectic than usual with the holidays and being short-
handed in the hospital and I'm still waiting on a few things related to the iPS lines and bioinformatics
vendors/platforms. I also have some travel planned.
Can I get this invoice to you and Jeffrey sometime during the week of 12/30 when things will have started to
settle down?
Thanks,
Joe Thakuria
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 4:19 PM,
> wrote:
Hi Joe! Thank you so much for this! I have passed along to Jeffrey your findings...lets see what he has to
Thanks again,
Lesley
On Dec 12, 2013, at 3:43 PM, Joseph Thakuria
Hi Lesley,
> wrote:
Sony I've been swamped with clinical work. We don't have a fellow this month so I've been in the hospital
until late every day this week.
Realistically I won't be able to provide a detailed invoice until early next week but here's the general
update:
1. I don't think donating sequencing of patient genomes or exomes will be an option anymore. I think it will
be too difficult to clear by mgh. And all the patients I had in mind were seen through mgh. I'll let you know
if this situation changes.
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2. For whole genome sequencing in a clia lab, I think the best bet is to get this done directly through
Illumina. The cost for this is $5-10k but I'll run various options by him. They offer just the raw data as well
as 2 types of analyses. I think he should do all 3 but I'll include more details in the invoice. (I'm still
discussing with people from illumina and waiting for some calls back.)
3. In terms of analysis, since Jeffrey has said cost is not an issue, the best route in my opinion would be to
analyze across several of the genomic analyses tools currently available. Though it's not critical to analyze
across multiple tools, it's a new enough field that a) they each have their own pros/cons, b) I don't think the
illumina analyses (both options) provides enough features for in depth analyses (this might seem surprising
- but shouldn't be - since they're much more focused on their sequencing instrumentation business over
analyses tools), and c) comparing results across the different ones for concordance is worthwhile. I've
honed in on 2-4 I think are worth using and will tally up the costs in the invoice.
4. Individualized cell lines: Jeffrey already has fibroblast cell lines from the skin biopsy done for the pgp.
Induced pluripotent stem cells (adult stem cells) can be made from these. They can also be induced to
differentiate into various cell types including neurons (which would otherwise, of course, be difficult to
obtain and study in a specific individual). I'm getting itemized costs but getting to iPS cells costs around
$10k and the process takes about 6 months (because of the multiple cell passages needed in the protocol).
(Success of course isn't guaranteed either.)
All this work should fall within or just a bit over the $30k or so Jeffrey mentioned over the phone. Payment
can be made by your group directly to the various vendors once you have that info. As I discussed with
Jeffrey on the phone, I won't personally accept money and any effort I contribute to this will be pro bono.
And, this goes without saying, but with respect to the vendors, these are just suggestions so Jeffrey should
feel free to use other vendors if he has other preferences.
I'm happy to go through his genome pro bono using the analyses tools his genomic data from illumina will
get loaded onto once it's available. I'm also happy to reassess as well in a year to try and incorporate any
new data that may be available relevant to his genome. At that time, there may also be additional data to
generate and analyze from studying his iPS or other cell lines. On that front, it may also be interesting to do
a genome on his fibroblast cells (which we currently have unlike the iPS cells). I wouldn't expect to get
additional medical info from that but it helps give a handle on mutations that are present in the fibros and
not him - and later in the iPS cells but not native cells. (And, therefore, give you a handle on how
accurately these cells will reflect normal physiology when further studied.) At some point we can compare
his white blood cell genome to fibroblast cells to iPS cells and other derived cells.
Some of this hassle, such as needing multiple vendors for sequencing and analyses, just comes with the
territory of being an early adopter. This will get cheaper and the process should be more straightforward
over time. And while no one can guarantee benefit from genome sequencing, especially in someone
relatively healthy, there is the possibility of reaping benefit as an early adopter before others if something
medically actionable is discovered in his data. (We'll also concentrate our analyses on those 56 genes the
ACMG recommended checking even in healthy individuals).
More to follow and apologies for the delay on the invoice. You can see I've been looking into it though and
there are still a few moving pieces. I'm sorry about the news on funding patient sequences. Jeffrey sounded
excited about that possibility. His genomic data should be interesting though and even if it's of limited use
now, he'll be able to go back and reanalyze the data in the future as more is collectively learned in this field.
Best,
Joe
On Dec 11, 2013 5:23 PM,'
> wrote:
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Hi Joe...can you please give me the ETA for Jeffrey's invoice? I'm sorry to keep pestering you, but
Jeffrey has asked that I stay on top of this...it is quite important to him.
Any update would be tremendously helpful.
Thank you,
Lesley
Assistant to Jeffrey Epstein
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