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be NO Ww ws Oo OY ~] oO Ke) a oO he be No (ee) = Hs Oo _ OY a ~] a oO a Ke} 20 21 22 23 24 25 Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 755 Filed 08/10/22 Page 241 of 262 1952 LC8Cmax7 Rodgers -— cross Q. And these were huge properties with lots of staff; right? A. Yes. Q. And there were lots of these properties? A. Yes. Q. And they demanded constant upkeep and supervision; right? A. Correct. Q. And there were numerous renovation and building projects going on at any given time at this time period at these properties? A. Right. Yes. Q. And she dealt with the pilots like yourself; right? A. Yes. Q. One of her responsibilities was, for example, approving your expenses? A. Yes. Q. And she approved your vacation time? A. Yes. Q. So if there was a problem with the planes in any way, shape, or form, she was the point of contact for that kind of an issue; right? A. Yes. Q. And she performed those roles for Epstein throughout the 1990s; right? A. Yes. Q. Now, you characterized her as Epstein's number 2, I think SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 DOJ-OGR-00013519