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Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 759 _ Filed 08/10/22 Page 224 of 267 2252 LCACmax7 Swain —- direct 1 of who Epstein was? 2 A. That he was Maria's boss. 3 Q. About how many calls in total did you have with Epstein? 4 A. At least six. 5 Q. What, if anything, did Epstein call you about, other than 6 Maria? 7 A. He called me before the Christmas holiday to ask if I would 8 allow Annie to come to New York to visit Maria as a gift to y) Maria for Christmas. 10 Q. Did you have one call or multiple calls with Jeffrey 11 Epstein about Annie? 12 A. Multiple. 13 Q. When you had calls with Epstein, what, if anything, did he 14 discuss with you about Annie's education? 15 A. He just said that he had -—- he could probably help guide 16 her in selecting a college and that he would like to introduce 17 her to some other people who could help with that. 18 Q. Approximately when did Epstein first call you about Annie? 19 A. In December of '95. 20 Q. Based on the call, what was Epstein offering to do? 21 A. The first call, to offer her a flight to New York to visit 22 Maria. 23 Q. Did you give Annie permission to go to New York? 24 A. I did. 25 Q. How come? SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 DOJ-OGR-00013815