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be NO Ww ws Oo OY ~] oO Ke) a oO he be No (ee) = Hs Oo _ OY a ~] a oO a Ke} 20 21 22 23 24 25 Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE LCGCmax2 A. No. Q. Doy plane? A. Sure Q. Did flying? A. No, and ask Espin ou know if Mr. Epstein - Yes. you typically know the not really. Sometimes for a lift to Florida, recall the names or I wouldn't osa - direct Document 761 ‘Filed 08/10/22 Page 53 of 246 2348 ever traveled with guests on his names of the guests that were some of his friends would call something like that, but I don't really know what guests were flying at any given time. Q. Did Epstein ever travel on commercial flights? A. Not to my knowledge. Q. Would Ghislaine ever travel on commercial flights? A» YES. QO. And when would she do that? A. There were times where she would either fly to see family in London or she would fly to Miami a couple times. Couple times she came out to California. Just different -- just when she wasn't with Jeffrey, she would be somewher ls Q. Did you help arrange those commercial flights? A. Yes. Q. Did you arrange commercial flights for anyone else in the office? A. No, not really that I can recall. Maybe, maybe I did, but I don't remember exactly. SOUTHERN DISTR CT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 DOJ-OGR-00013912