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be NO Ww ws Oo OY ~] oO Ke) a oO he be No (ee) = Hs Oo _ OY a ~] a oO a Ke} 20 21 22 23 24 25 Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 761 Filed 08/10/22 Page 181 of 246 2476 LCGVMAX5 Loftus - cross Q. And the participants were between the ages of 18 to 53, right? Avs Yes. Q. And you tried to implant a false memory, right? A. We tried to suggest to them that they, as a child, have been lost in a shopping mall for an extended period of time and then rescued by an elderly person and reunited with their family. Q. So research subjects wer they were shown one-paragraph stories describing four events, right? A. Well, again, that was a 1995 paper; but the fine details of the method, that sounds close, yes, but -- QO. So but there were thr true stories and one false one, right? A. Yes. Q. Okay. And you told the subjects that you talked to their parents, right? A. Yeah, or an older sibling. Q. So a parent or older sibling, right? A. Yes. Q. And you found out from the parents experiences that had happened to the subjects when they were children, right? A. Yes, some tru xperiences. Q. Right. For the thr true ones, right? Ae Yes. SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 DOJ-OGR-00014040