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Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 767 _ Filed 08/10/22 Page 85 of 257 2919 LCKCmax5 Summation - Ms. Menninger 1 As we go through the stories of each of these accusers 2 and each of the witnesses, you need to keep your eye on the 3 thing that the government hasn't, how these stories have 4 changed dramatically over time. 5 Carolyn, you heard, had a lawyer back in 2008, and she 6 started out giving a very clearcut story about Jeffrey Epstein 7 and also about a woman named Sarah Kellen, who she also sued. 8 She had no trouble articulating her claims. She had a lawyer, 9 she filed a lawsuit, a lawsuit that didn't mention, in 290 10 paragraphs, Ghislaine Maxwell one time. 11 The same is true with Jane. She told stories about 12 Epstein. Initially, she said she wasn't sure that Maxwell was 13 ever in the room. And don't be fooled about this difficulty in 14 disclosing the details of it. She had two male lawyers. She 15 had no difficulty disclosing it to them before sh ver met 16 with the government. And when she walked in to talk to the 17 government, she told them she wasn't sure if Maxwell was ever 18 in the room. But her lawyer told her it would help her with 19 her case if she cooperated with this prosecution, and so she 20 did, and the lawyers kept asking, the FBI kept asking, are you 21 sure that maybe the person who had a foreign accent was perhaps 22 Ghislaine Maxwell? Are you sure maybe he groped your breasts 23 instead of massaging your upper chest? Are you sure there 24 wasn't sexual abuse in New Mexico? Perhaps you met him when 25 you were only 14? Perhaps you didn't just meet Epstein then, SOUT HERN D STRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 DOJ-OGR-00014485