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a No Go wd on OY ~] (ee) Ke) a © a a No (ee) = ws On a OY a ~] a co a Ke) 20 21 22 ae 24 ae Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 782 Filed 01/15/25 Page16o0f158 16 LBAAMAX1ps Rocchio - Direct techniques to arrive at the -- my professional opinion. Q. What if any licenses do you have? A. I'm licensed to practice psychology currently in the states of Rhode Island, Massachusetts, and New York. Q. In your career, for approximately how many years -- THE COURT: Sorry. May I ask, Dr. Rocchio, that point you made about not taking what someone says at face value, you distinguish that as part of THE WITNESS: THE COURT: THE WITNESS: your forensic practice? Yes. And what about in your clinical In my clinical practice? practice, it's not -- have to deal with what the patients tell me in It's the room. not my job to go out and verif in the clinical room, y any part of what's being told but, rather, to hear what they're telling me and then rel late that back to my other skills- training experience, the scientific literature. Someone, for example, might report to me symptoms of depression. [ could ask them how that's manifesting in their life, but I don't go to their house to see if they're actually staying in bed all day. That kind of thing. THE COURT: Thank you. BY MS. POMERANTZ: Q. Dr. Rocchio, in your career, for approximately how many years have you trea ted and assessed patients? A. 30, maybe slightly more than 30 years at this point. SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 DOJ-OGR-00014892