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a No Go wd on OY ~] (ee) Ke) a © a — No (ee) = ws On a OY a ~] a co a Ke) 20 21 22 ae 24 ae Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 782 Filed 01/15/25 Page 36o0f158 36 LBAGma x2 Rocchio - Direct what that typically entails, not just the sexual components, but also the psychological and emotional components and their effects. And also, certainly, in my reviews of the literature and things that we talked about in graduate school and in other trainings, what sorts of behaviors offenders commonly use in order to engage children in that relationship. Q. In your clinical practice, have you treated and evaluated patients who have reported being groomed in connection with sexual abuse? A. I have. Although they don't typically use that word. As I said, most patients, including patients I treat, who have been abused as children, have had abuse happen in the context of a relationship. The abuse hasn't involved explicit force. So to the extent that they talk about the ways that they came to know, love and depend upon the perpetrator, yes, they talk and describe at length the types of behaviors that would meet the definition of grooming. Q. Approximately how many patients have you treated, evaluated who have reported behaviors consistent with grooming? A. I would say the vast majority of patients I have treated who have reported childhood sexual abuse, again, that would be hundreds upon hundreds. Q. What are the ages of the patients you have treated who have reported behaviors consistent with grooming? A. I have treated patients who are adolescents and patients SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 DOJ-OGR-00014912