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a No Go wd on OY ~] (ee) Ke) a © a a No (ee) = ws On a OY a ~] a co a Ke) 20 21 22 ae 24 ae Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 782 Filed 01/15/25 Page 141 0f 158141 government in support of your A. Partially in support, yes LBAAMAX5ps Rocchio - Cross testimony here today, correct? Q. And this is by the same folks who did the 2020 study, Winters and Jeglic. Right? A. YES. Q. The abstract here -- this study was actually giving professionals a list, undergraduate students a list of potential grooming behaviors to see if they could identify grooming behaviors. And there were a total of 393 undergraduate students who were provided with this information. Do you recall that? A. I don't recall specifically. I recog -- I can recall. This was the article that -- in which -- they did two things. They developed the model, which they later tested. And then they created a scenario in which they attempted to see whether or not grooming behaviors cou ld be predicted. Q. Right. And the results o behaviors could not be predic A. Correct. Q. And this is what ended up f this study were that grooming ted. Correct? with the 2020 attempt to validate the model, which they're still working on. Right? A. So you're talking about two different concepts. I can't really answer that question. 1O OK. Bottom line, "Nobody people" -- "393 undergraduate could predict grooming out of 364 students." Right? SOUTHERN DISTR CT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 DOJ-OGR-00015017