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be N Ww ws Oo OY ~] oO WO a oO = be N Ww = Hs Oo a OY a ~] a oO a Ke) 20 21 22 23 24 25 Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE LCAVMAX2 Document 759 ___—~ Filed 08/10/22 A. Farmer - direct (At sidebar) Page 44 of 267 MS. POMBERANTZ: Thank you, your Honor. This information is being asked not for the truth of the matter being asserted, but for her state of mind for what was in her mind at the time that she was going why she felt comfortable, why she felt more comfortabl to New Mexico, e going fered to this trip. It's not being of fered matter; it's being of she was going on this trip to New Mexico. For the truth of for what her state of the mind was when MS. MENNINGER: Your Honor, this is backdoor hearsay. THE COURT: It is backdoor hearsay. You can ask her about going on and why she was comfortable. eliciting -- which you clearly are -- hearsay as to what mother told her about who would be there, MS. POMERANTZ: Okay. MS. MENNINGER: there's a conversation between Epstein and her the trip, Her mother is testifying; why she went But to the extent you're her objection sustained. so if mother, understand that that would perhaps come in through the mother. THE COURT: Right. MS. POMERANTZ: Okay. Thank you, your Honor. THE COURT: Counsel, the other thing you can say is after you had your conversation with your go to New Mexico. And again, what experience, but not elicit the hearsay of SOUTHERN D STR (212) 805-0300 mother, did you then you can ask her about her own her mother told CT REPORTERS, P.C. 2072 DOJ-OGR-00016260