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Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 759 Filed 08/10/22 Page 223 of 267 2251 first time you spoke with Epstein on the Epstein once on the phone or more than what did Epstein talk to Can I get a I believe that she had 1995, what did few calls that he LCACmax7 Swain —- direct 1 Q. Have you ever met Jeffrey Epstein in person? 2 A. No, I haven't. 3 Q. About when was the 4 phone? 2 A. In 1995. 6 Q. And how did that come about? 7 A. He called to tell me that he was inviting Maria to go on 8 his plane to Florida for a work trip. 9 Q. Did you speak to 10 once on the phone? 11 A. More than once. 12 Q. And during these first few calls, 13 you about? 14 MS. MENNINGER: Objection. Hearsay. 15 THE COURT: Overruled. I'm sorry. 16 timeframe? 17 MS. POMERANTZ: Your Honor, 18 testified about 1995. 19 THE COURT: Okay. Overruled. 20 BY MS. POMERANTZ: 21 Q. Ms. Swain, after Epstein called you in 22 Epstein talk to you about during the first 23 made to you? 24 A. About Maria's art career and her talent. 25 Q. At the time you spoke with him, what was your understanding SOUTH ERN D STR CT RE PORTERS, (212) 805-0300 PG ew DOJ-OGR-00016439