EFTA00449255.pdf
PDF Source (No Download)
Extracted Text (OCR)
From: Lesley Groff
To: Bebe Avdiu
Subject: Fwd: Kuhn - The Science of Sleep and Dreams
Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2017 17:44:55 +0000
Please make an appt for Jeffrey with Robert Kuhn sometime April 12-14...I will send you Robert's contact
details next...
Begin forwarded message:
From: "Jeffrey E." <jeevacation@gmail.com>
Subject: Fwd: Kuhn - The Science of Sleep and Dreams
Date: April 8, 2017 at 5:46:30 AM EDT
To: Lesley Groff <
Forwarded messa e ---------
From: Robert Kuhn
Date: Sat, Apr 8, 2017 at 2:28 AM
Subject: Re: Kuhn - The Science of Sleep and Dreams
To: "jeffrey E." <jeevacation@gmail.com>
Just arrived NY, here for —10 days.
Now with the Trump-Xi Summit over (utterly overwhelmed by Syria strike), back to Closer To Truth.
When good to meet?
Robert
On Mar 23, 2017, at 4:23 PM, Jeffrey E. <jeevacation@gmail.com> wrote:
Look forward to seeing you
On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 3:54 PM Robert Kuhn a
wrote:
Hi: Just returned from a month in China. Attached is my summary of recent politics (in South China
Morning Post), and pies of moderating (at request of govts of China and Israel) the PM's discussion with
leading Chinese technologist (Baidu CEO, dominant Chinese search engine). The PM was in China for 25th
anniversary of diplomatic relations
Back to CTT, my `true love'... Love to discuss Science of Sleep & Dreams project. I'm in LA for week and
then NY April 8-18.
Warm regards, Robert
EFTA00449255
On Feb 15, 2017, at 1:29 PM, Robert Kuhn c
> wrote:
501 (c) (3) - private operating foundation - The Kuhn Foundation, which I set up in 1999 to support
Closer To Truth. IRS letter attached.
Thank you.
<Kuhn Foundation IRS Tax Exempt Determination Letter 1999, 2015.pdf>
On Feb 15, 2017, at 4:17 PM, jeffrey E. <jeevacation@gmail.com> wrote:
is it a charity that received the funding?
On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 1:27 AM, Robert Lawrence Kuhn
> wrote:
Pardon the formality below - I want to approach your very legitimate questions / concerns in a serious
manner.
Attached and below the same.
Dear Jeffrey:
As requested, the following addresses your two questions / concerns about our proposed Closer To
Truth TV series "The Science of Sleep and Dreams":
(i) Have there been sufficient breakthroughs in Sleep and Dreams (significantly beyond traditional
understandings) to justify a major TV series?
(ii) Even if `yes' to (i), is now the proper time for such a foundational series, or are more years needed
for corroborative studies and further research to solidify the breakthroughs?
In preparing this response, my primary source is Professor Patrick McNamara, Department of
Neurology, Boston University School of Medicine, with whom CTT Producer/Director Peter Getzels
and I spoke with at length today. Patrick is one of the leading sleep and dream researchers (he himself
more dreams). More importantly, he is perhaps the leading chronicler of the field, with
many publications (including 26 entries in related encyclopedias). He is co-editor-in-chief of the
"Encyclopedia of Sleep and Dreams" (2012) and the sole author of the forthcoming "An Introduction
to the Neuroscience of Sleep and Dreams" (Cambridge University Press, 2018), which intends to
present the latest science and to become a main textbook for graduate courses/seminars. Patrick is a
CTT contributor and colleague.
When we asked Patrick, his first response — "This is the ideal time to tell the sleep-and-dreams story"
— and he cited (in essence) your two questions, in that (i) the multiple breakthroughs are now
sufficiently well corroborated by numerous independent labs such that a substantial foundation for the
new, deeper understanding of sleep and dreams is now for the first time (over the past few years)
confirmed and established, and (ii) there are now interesting application and critical clinical questions
to pose, explore and pursue, such as for the treatment of various mental-related illnesses that have
known sleep-related syndromes (e.g., PTSD and Depression).
EFTA00449256
To understand the significance of recent breakthroughs, a defining characteristic of sleep and dreams
is that there are two distinct kinds of sleep — REM (rapid-eye-movement) Sleep and NREM (non-
rapid-eye-movement) Sleep. Most dreams are associated with REM sleep (though complex). The eye
movement gives the eponymous name, but a more important designation defines the two stages
in terms of brain waves (electroencephalograph — EEG): REM is Fast-Wave Sleep (similar to the
waking state) and NREM Sleep is Slow-Wave Sleep (very different from the waking state). This
difference between REM and NREM sleep has been known since 1953 (different EEGs since 1937),
but its deep significance has only been discovered and confirmed in very recent years (as explained
below).
Following are the key areas of breakthrough in sleep and dreams (from Patrick). Patrick states that
these are now reproducible, non-controversial, and well-accepted among experts, although still not
appreciated by the public - hence the high value of our CTT TV series. The organizing idea is why and
how are sleep and dreams essential for normal memory consolidation and bodily health / well-being.
Memory Consolidation. There is a fundamental difference between REM and NREM Sleep for
memory consolidation: REM is for emotional memories, whereas NREM is for declarative and
procedural memories. Hence, understanding and dealing with REM emotional memories can lead to
treatment for the many neuropsychiatric illnesses that have sleep/dream-related disorders
or syndromes (Parkinson's Disease, Anxiety, Substance Abuse, many sleep disorders such as
Nightmare Disorder, etc., in addition to PTSD and Depression). Research shows bi-directional
causality between neuropsychiatric disorders and sleep disorders. This is a superb example of how
fundamental science breakthroughs lead to clinical breakthroughs. This fact that REM is associated
with emotional memories is nicely consistent with the apparent psychotic nature of dreams, because in
REM Sleep the frontal cortex is `down-regulated' (and the frontal cortex is associated with rational
planning, reflection, controlling impulses), while in REM Sleep the limbic system is 'up-regulated"
(and the limbic system is associated with emotions and feelings) - see Neuroimaging below. This is
why dream states flood the ego with emotional fantasies without rational control. However, it is also
true that the limbic system enables creative ideas, thus grounding in science the long-suspected idea
that sleep and dreams can enhance creativity.
As Dr. Robert Stickgold, our other advisor on the series, wrote: "It would be nice if we could talk
about sleep and memory as if there were only one type of memory and one type of sleep. But this is
far from the case. Sleep and memory each comes in many forms, and furthermore, memories can go
through multiple forms of post-encoding processing that must be individually addressed."
Immunity / Immune System. Strengthening the immune system is now a proven product of NREM
sleep. Discerning the evolutionary basis for this is a key research project (i.e., it seems counter-
intuitive that sleeping facilitates fitness for survival in that predators lurked in the jungles and on the
plains so that going unconscious during sleep does not, at first glance, seem especially adaptive).
Studies of sleep in various non-human animals reveals a direct relationship between longer periods of
NREM (Slow-Wave) Sleep and a stronger immune system, especially in fighting parasites. NREM
Sleep releases molecules that fight inflection; NREM Sleep works for the maintenance, repair and
activation of the immune system. (This gives scientific rationale for the need or desire to sleep during
illnesses.) Related are "genetic conflict" studies with respect to REM and NREM, showing differences
in heredity between material and paternal lines, and differences between males and females in which
genes get "imprinted".
Neuroplasticity. Exciting recent research has reversed the century-long conventional wisdom that new
neurons are never created in adult animals/humans. The development of new neurons —
neuronogenesis - is a vital part of maintaining normal brain and mental functioning. New neurons are
being created, importantly, in the hippocampus (brain organ where new memories are encoded) — but,
remarkably, the neuronogensis in the hippocampus occurs only/largely during REM Sleep — a stunning
EFTA00449257
finding. This is another reason why REM sleep is needed for emotional memory
consolidation (normal functioning).
Dream-Content. Although dreams have sparked human fascination and fantasy for thousands of years,
only in very recent years, have large-scale surveys been conducted with rigorous design,
classifications and statistical analysis. Literally hundreds of thousands of dreams are enabling
statistically significant theories, including cross-cultural analyses (similarities
and differences). Dream-posting sites have revolutionized size and structure of dream data sets.
This enables, for the first time, longitudinal studies of dreams over time. Patterns are repeated. For
example, in general, the dreams of males and females differ in fundamental ways. Males will engage
in fighting with other males; females with both males and females. Male dreamers are often the
initiator of fights and the fights are usually physical. Females fight verbally. Aggressiveness by the
dreamer is almost always in REM Sleep, rarely in NREM Sleep. (Why is a continuing question.)
"Lucid Dreaming" is a new area of fascinating research. Lucid Dreaming is where the dreamer
"knows" that he/she is dreaming while dreaming (a talent that a small minority possesses but more can
be trained/developed). Lucid dreamers, while sleeping, can now communicate with experimenters
by altering their brain activity and thus becoming detectable by neuroimaging techniques (see below).
Neuroimaging. Finally, neuroimaging technology has enabled many of these breakthroughs. As such,
it is itself a methodological breakthrough that has enabled these other content breakthroughs.
Neuroimaging now enables detailed location of the neuroanatomy and neurophysiology of REM and
NREM Sleep. In REM Sleep, the dorsolateral, frontal cortex is "down-regulated", whereas the
limbic system is "up-regulated", showing the physiological basis for the emotional, wild-fantasies of
dreams (see above). (Neuroimaging will enable good visual images for the TV series without extra
costs.)
Patrick stresses that while these breakthroughs form, for the first time, a solid foundation for
understanding sleep and dreams, they also open opportunities to dig deeper into the "purpose" of sleep
and dreams, as well as engender a new series of questions and directions (e.g., clinical treatments of
illnesses).
Attached is Patrick's quick compiling of summaries of a few recent leading research papers (2009 —
2017, especially 2015-2017).
You'd enjoy speaking with him, if you want.
Love to do this series together with you.
Much appreciate and warm regards,
Robert
please note
The information contained in this communication is
confidential, may be attorney-client privileged, may
constitute inside information, and is intended only for
the use of the addressee. It is the property of
EFTA00449258
JEE
Unauthorized use, disclosure or copying of this
communication or any part thereof is strictly prohibited
and may be unlawful. If you have received this
communication in error, please notify us immediately by
return e-mail or by e-mail to jeevacation@gmail.com, and
destroy this communication and all copies thereof,
including all attachments. copyright -all rights reserved
please note
The information contained in this communication is
confidential, may be attorney-client privileged, may
constitute inside information, and is intended only for
the use of the addressee. It is the property of
JEE
Unauthorized use, disclosure or copying of this
communication or any part thereof is strictly prohibited
and may be unlawful. If you have received this
communication in error, please notify us immediately by
return e-mail or by e-mail to jeevacation@gmail.com, and
destroy this communication and all copies thereof,
including all attachments. copyright -all rights reserved
please note
The information contained in this communication is
confidential, may be attorney-client privileged, may
constitute inside information, and is intended only for
the use of the addressee. It is the property of
JEE
Unauthorized use, disclosure or copying of this
communication or any part thereof is strictly prohibited
and may be unlawful. If you have received this
communication in error, please notify us immediately by
return e-mail or by e-mail to jeevacation@gmail.com, and
destroy this communication and all copies thereof,
including all attachments. copyright -all rights reserved
EFTA00449259
Document Preview
PDF source document
This document was extracted from a PDF. No image preview is available. The OCR text is shown on the left.
This document was extracted from a PDF. No image preview is available. The OCR text is shown on the left.
Extracted Information
Dates
Document Details
| Filename | EFTA00449255.pdf |
| File Size | 406.1 KB |
| OCR Confidence | 85.0% |
| Has Readable Text | Yes |
| Text Length | 13,053 characters |
| Indexed | 2026-02-11T22:01:20.525447 |