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Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 743 Filed 08/10/22 Page 152 of 247 280 LBUVMAX4 Visoski - cross 1 and the other, '94. So, yeah, 14 and 11-ish. 2 Q. So one was a teenager and one was a preteen? 3 A. That's correct. 4 Q. Now, your daughters occasionally spent time with Ghislaine a on the ranch in New Mexico, especially after you built your 6 house there; isn't that right? 7 A. Yes. 8 Q. They loved the animals, I believe, right? 9 A. Yes. 10 Q. Especially the horses? 11 A. Yeah, they are horse lovers. 12 Q. And sometimes Ghislaine would take them riding on the 13 horses at the ranch; isn't that right? 14 A. Yes, my daughters did ride at the ranch on the horses, yes. 15 Q. They did that a fair amount? 16 A. YSS. 17 Q. And you trusted Ghislaine enough that you felt comfortable 18 letting your two young daughters spent time with her; isn't 19 that right? 20 A. That is correct. 21 Q. If you had any inkling whatsoever that Ghislaine was 22 involved in helping Epstein sexually abuse young girls, you 23 wouldn't have let that happen, would you? 24 A. Absolutely not. 25 Q. And if you had any inkling whatsoever that Ghislaine or SOUTHERN D STR CT REPORT BRS, Pes (212) 805-0300 DOJ-OGR-00017514