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Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 743 Filed 08/10/22 Page 172 of 247 300 LBUVMAX4 Jane —- direct 1 well. 2 Q. When you began spending time with Maxwell and Epstein, what 3 was your impression at the time of how old they were? 4 A. thought approximately the same age as my parents, my mom. a Q. And again, just to be very clear, how old were you when you 6 first started spending time with Maxwell and Epstein? 7 A. 14. 8 Q. What kind of activities would you typically do when you 9 spent time with Maxwell and Epstein during those first few 10 months? 11 A. We would spend time at the house and sort of chitchat 12 and -- or eat in the kitchen or hang out by the pool, sometimes 13 going to the movies. Casual stuff 14 Q. What, if anything, do you remember about spending time at 15 the pool during those first few months? 16 A. Well, remember maybe the first time I went to the 17 poolside. And I walked out there. And there was at least four 18 women and Ghislaine all topless, and some of them were naked. 19 Q. What was your reaction to that? 20 A. Well, I was just shocked because I hadn't seen that before. 21 Q. In those first few months when you spent time at the house 22 in Palm Beach, did you have conversations with Maxwell? 23 A. Yes. 24 Q. What kinds of things would she talk about with you? 25 A. Well, we would chitchat, talk about school. She would ask SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 DOJ-OGR-00017534