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Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 743 Filed 08/10/22 Page 184 of 247 312 LBUVMAX4 Jane — direct 1 other people were present, how did incidents like that 2 typically start? 3 A. It would be other people spending time at the house, sort 4 of hanging out, seemingly casually. And then it was, once a again, sort of, it seemed just abruptly everything would stop. 6 And someone, Ghislaine or Jeffrey, would sort of summon 7 everyone to, you know, follow to a room. 8 Q. Where would everyone go? 9 A. To either Jeffrey's bedroom or mainly the massage room. 10 Q. During these incidents where other people were present, 11 what would Maxwell typically do? 12 A. Well, she, along with others, would just start taking their 13 clothes off. And Jeffrey would get on the massage table, and 14 it would just, you know, sort of turn into this orgy. 15 Q. What, if anything -- what, if any, clothing did you wear 16 during these sessions? 17 A. My underwear. 18 Q. During incidents like this where other people were present, 19 what kinds of sex acts would occur? 20 A. Kissing, oral sex on each other, oral sex on Jeffrey, 2] full-on intercourse. 22 Q. How often was Maxwell present in the first year that that 23 happened to you? 24 A. can't give an exact number. 25 QO. Were there times where there were incidents like this where SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 DOJ-OGR-00017546