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Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 747 Filed 08/10/22 Page 108 of 228 784 LC2Qmax3 Alessi Direct 1 in Mr. Epstein's life? 2 A. From the day she came to the house, sh she right away 3 took over, and she mentioned to me that she was going to be the 4 lady of the house, and also she was in charge of other homes, 5 other properties. 6 Q. Whose other properties was she in charge of according to 7 her? 8 A. Of Mr. Epstein. 9 Q. What was your relationship with Mr. Epstein like before you 10 met Ms. Maxwell? 11 A. It was cordial. 12 Q. How, if at all, did that change after you met Ms. Maxwell? 13 A. It changed gradually from being cordial to be more -- 14 more -—- just professional, in a professional manner. Our 15 conversation with him were less and less and less. 16 Q. What, if anything, did Ms. Maxwell tell you about whether 17 you could speak directly to Mr. Epstein? 18 A. Well, only I was supposed to speak to Mr. Epstein when he 19 asked me questions. 20 Q. What, if anything, did Ms. Maxwell tell you about eye 2l contact? 22 A. At the end of my stay, it was a time when she says Jeffrey 23 doesn't like to be looked at his eyes. You should never look 24 at his eyes. Just look at another part of the room and answer 25 to him. SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 DOJ-OGR-00017981