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fe N Ww ws Oo OY ~] oO WO a oO a fe N Ww = Hs Oo a OY a ~] a oO a Ke) 20 21 22 23 24 25 and he will pay. Do you remember that? A» YES. QO. Now, I want to ta testified about. Isn Eepstein's house at th lk about the tim "t it true that e invitation of the date you SOUTHERN D STR CT REPORTERS, (212) 805-0300 2) Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE Document 753 Filed 08/10/22 Page 144 of 264 LC7Cmax4 Carolyn - cross Ms. Roberts told you to say that you were 17 or 18? A. That is not true. Q. That's not true; is that your testimony? A. She said if somebody asked, I needed to say that. MR. PAGLIUCA: If we can show the witness the same document at paragraph 4. Q. Do you see on the last two lines there, "Carolyn was previously instructed by Virginia to tell Epstein she was 17." Do you see that? A. Yeah. Q. Is that what you told the FBI in August of 2007? A. Yes, becaus slipped up and told Mr. Epstein that I was 14. Q. I'm not asking you what you told Mr. Epstein, I'm asking you first, that's what Ms. Roberts told you and, at first, you said no, and now you're saying yes? A. She told me if anybody asked, I needed to say I was 1/7. MR. PAGLIUCA: We can take that down. Q. Do you remember Ms. Roberts saying that he, Epstein, was a friend of hers, we can go there, you can give him a massage, frame that you've first went to Roberts was in May or June 1570 DOJ-OGR-00018742