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Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE LC7VMAX5 Document 753 Carolyn - cross Filed 08/10/22 Page 163 of 264 1589 1 government has framed this allows for inquiry about that. And 2 had the government not asked those questions, it was not my 3 intent to get into any of the child issues. 4 But think the jury is left with the impression that 5 because of what Epstein did to her, she's now schizophrenic and 6 has all these schizophrenic concerns about her children, when, 7 for the last 19 years, these children have been repeatedly put 8 in different places as a result of her problems. 9 MS. COMEY: Your Honor, I think if Mr. Pagliuca is 10 going to go into detail, we should be having this at side bear 11 under seal, if we're going to be discussing the details of her 12 family. 13 THE COURT: Yes. 14 MR. PAGLIUCA: Okay. 15 THE COURT: The court reporter requested, so she can 16 sit, that we do it in the robing room. 17 (Pages 1590 to 1601 SEALED) 18 (Continued on next page) 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 SOUTH ERN D STR CT REPORT ERS, (212) 805-0300 PG ew DOJ-OGR-00018761