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Case 1:20-cr-00330 -PAE Document 755 Filed 08/10/22 Page 122 of 262 1827 LC8VMAX4 Rodgers - direct 1 the passengers were. So sometimes we might get introduced to 2 the passenger by Jeffrey once they got onboard. 3 Q. Did you always know the name of every passenger onboard? 4 A. No. 5 Q. Why not? 6 A. Nobody told us who they were. 7 Q. If there was a passenger onboard and you didn't know that 8 person's name, how did you indicate the presence of that person 9 in your Logbook? 10 A. With the industry standard of "PAX," which is abbreviation 1] for passenger. And then later on we further change it from 12 that to either the gender, ither male or female. 13 Q. I want to go now actually backing up. 14 So is the first time a person's name appears in this 15 logbook necessarily the first time that person was a passenger 16 on one of Mr. Epstein's planes? 17 A. It might not be, because they could have been a PAX on the 18 previous flight because we didn't know their name, and then 19 maybe the next flight we find out who they are. 20 Q. So you wouldn't go back and add in their name? 2l A. No. 22 Q. I'd like to turn now, please, to page 29 of Government 23 Exhibit 662. And there are numbers on the bottom. 24 A. Okay. 25 Q. I want to look at flight number 573, please. Can you SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 DOJ-OGR-00018984