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be NO Ww ws Oo OY ~] oO Ke) a oO he be No (ee) = Hs Oo _ OY a ~] a oO a Ke} 20 21 22 23 24 25 Case 1:20-cr-00330-PAE LC8VMAX6 A. Right. Q. And do you know A. Sarah Kellen. Document 755 Filed 08/10/22 Rodgers -— cross Page 188 of 262 what those initials designate? Q. So Sarah Kellen was a frequent passenger who you would abbreviate with her initials, right? A. Yes. Q. And those peopl sorry, I take it back. If someone was a new passenger or someone you hadn't met yet, you would put their full name, if it had been given to you, right? A. Yes. Q. Or you would put a first name if that's all you had for them, right? A» YES. Q. Or you'd put down a placeholder like we spoke about, one passenger, one male, on Female? A. Correct. Q. Okay. Now, it was sometimes the case, wasn't it, Mr. Rodgers, that Epstein's friends or acquaintances or family members would fly on the plane with him, right? A. Yes. Q. And he would take them on his plane if they were -- if he was going the direction they were going, right? A. Yes. Q. Effectively giving them a lift on his plane, right? SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 1899 DOJ-OGR-00019050