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Page basicall LE like you were with him pretty regularl GHISLAINE MAXWI TODD BLANCHI! GHISLAINE MAXW! : I never was with him regularly. TODD BLANCHE: Okay. GHISLAINE MAXWELL: That is one of misnomers. TODD BLANCHE: Okay. GHISLAINE MAXWELL: I mean, at the beginning I did see more of him, but I worked in his of fi . So I would go to the office and I would see him, and I would count in my head when I would see him. I would count that I would -- that would be a day that I would see him. But I didn't -- I never, ever stayed with him. believe certainly until '93 or '94, what didn't know was that I think he was still with his actual girlfriend who was Eva Andersson, who became Eva Dubin. They had been together, my understanding, think about 10 years. I'm not sure, but that's what I think, 10 years. And I had understood from my girlfriend initially, that they weren't together and Epstein MAGNA®© LEGAL SERVICES DOJ-OGR-00022415