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Page 24 himself had told me that they were not together. But don'( I don't think that was true. In fact, know it's not true. So they were still together, up until, I think '94, when at some point, in that period of time, Eva met Glenn Dubin and they got married, I think in '94. don't remember when they got married, but her, she was his best friend and his everything, he told me that he always wished that he had married her and had a child with her. And I know that they -- she was family for him for his whole life. And I think even -- I'm not sure this is true, but you guys will know if this is true or not. When he came from -- back from Paris and you arrested him, I don't know if Eva was on the plane. Now, I think that either I read it in the -- in the discovery that I received, or I saw it somewhere. But even if she wasn't on the plane, there must have been some email communication where she was in Paris at the same time and going to fly back. One or the other, I don't know which one is the correct version of that. But so they were still obviously very close and remained throughout MAGNA®© LEGAL SERVICES DOJ-OGR-00022416