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Page 34 flown over with -- so who was on the plane trip? I don't mean everybody. When you said, so Mr. Epstein was on the GHISLAINE ELL: Yes. TODD BLANCHE: were on the plane? GHISLAINE ] : Yes. TODD BLANCHE: else, that you can remember? I'm not, yo you only remember what you remember. DAVID MARKUS: President Clinton on the plane? GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Clinton. He would've -- he would've had his guy, Doug Vance, maybe Jason Cooper, maybe the two. TODD BLANCHE: And you -- and so why -- so -- so how do you meet -- so -- so why did you say that's when you met him and that you met him through Clinton? GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Well, it was a -- I think Ted would've been there, had it not been Lt was a President Clinton dinner and Ted came to be with President Clinton -- TODD BLANCHE GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Not to be with MAGNA®© LEGAL SERVICES DOJ-OGR-00022426