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Page 39 like a -- a surrogate mother for me, sort of, because my mum wasn't there. I could -- I could look after her the way that I would -- sorry. TODD BLANCHE: t's all right. GHISLAINE MAXWELL: The way that would've liked to look after my own mum. So very close to his mother. And she had been in a car crash and in 2004, I believe it -- it may have been 2005, don't recall exactly. She took a -- her health a serious decline. And Epstein called me and as me if I could look after her. And by looking af her, that meant organizing her doctors, making s she had new clothes, making sure her house was clean. DAVID MARKUS: Where was she? GHISLAINE MAXWELL: She lived in -- ina retirement stablishment in -- outside of Palm Beach, outside of -- its West Palm. I want -- I was going to say something like the Golden Girls, but it's not called that. I just don't remember what it's called. But it was an old age -- it was a retirement home, if you will. DAVID MARKUS: Todd, I don't know, we've been going for maybe about an hour now. Do you think -- is this a good time to -- MAGNA®© LEGAL SERVICES DOJ-OGR-00022431