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Page 57 he started a business where he looked for stolen money. So if somebody -- let's see. I'm trying to think of some intelligent way to say it, but I can't think of anything, I've been with -- not great -- T'll -- I'll give it to you. So let's say you have El Chapo, oh God, t know where he comes from. But anyway, we've El Chapo. And El Chapo's laundering money or till -- he's working with the Sinaloa Cartel and he steals money from the Sinaloa Cartel and he moves it to wherever. So he's got stolen money from the Sinaloa, goes to it. This didn't happen. I'm just TODD BLANCHI! understand. GHISLAINE MAXWELL: -- just coming up with something in my head. And the Sinaloa says to Epstein, "Can you track down my billion dollars that, the car- -- the other cartel stole from me?" And tp Epstein will go and find the billion dollars and will take a portion of the money that was stolen at a fee and give back the remainder. That would be ona percentage basis. TODD BLANCHE: . But like what you just described, which I appreciate what you said, a MAGNA®© LEGAL SERVICES DOJ-OGR-00022449