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Page 64 GHISLA ; : I did meet Leon. do know Leon. TODD BLANCHE: When do you remember -- and again, I know we're talking about a very long time ago, but do you remember approximately when you met him? GHISLAINE MAXWELL: I could have met Leon, not really -- so I might have met him, nothing to do, because Leon Black is very good friends with other friends of mine. I would've met him, when I say socially, I might have met him. How Leon and Epstein became really good friends, I don't -- I'm not sure. TODD BLANCHE: But not through you, as far as you recall? GHISLAINE ELL: No. Not through me far as I know. No. I -- in fact, I'm -- I'm sure that's not through me. TODD BLANCHE: Do you know what kind of Epstein was doing for Mr. Black over the GH : ELL: Same as what he did for Wexner. TODD BLANCHE: So we just talked about individuals. And again, I know we're talking about a, maybe a 15-year time period or even longer. MAGNA®© LEGAL SERVICES DOJ-OGR-00022456