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Page 65 How many clients like that did Mr. Epstein GHISLAINE MAXWELL: But why don't give you the names that I remember and that's TODD BLANCHE: Say it again. GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Why won't I just give you the names. TODD BLANCHE: Yeah. GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Do you want the names? TODD BLANCHE: Sure. Go ahead. GHISLAINE ELL: Elizabeth Johnson -- Johnson & Johnso TODD BLANCHE: When did -- as far as you know, when did the relationship between Ms. Johnson and Mr. Epstein start? GHISLAINE MAXWELL: "90s. "90 -- -- '95, '96. "90s. TODD BLANCHE: So during the time period? GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Yes. We're talking "90s. We're talking when I was there. When I was around. TODD BLANCHE: And how did the relationship start? GHISLAINE MAXWELL: I don't know how he became that friendly where h nded up managing her MAGNA®© LEGAL SERVICES DOJ-OGR-00022457