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Page 66 money, I wasn't there. I mean, he -- I really had a separate life. We really had separate lives -- TODD BLANCHE: Okay. GHISLAINE MAXWELL: -- except where they TODD ] E: But it wasn't GH j ELL: It wasn't TODD 1] E: from you? GH ' ELL: No. It was not. TODD 1] E: Okay. And what's your understanding of Epstein did for Ms. Johnson? GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Same as what he did for Wexner. And when I -- and you have to understand, it -- it went down to, in tiny details. So I remember this -- I remember, this is an actual memory, that he would make the contracts for the maids, for the people who worked in their homes. TODD BLANCHE: So he would assist his clients, at times, with -- you're saying with even small things like contractual relations with -- with -- GHISLAINE MAXWELL: He said no detail was too small, because everything that affected how they lived and how they managed their life, was something MAGNA®© LEGAL SERVICES DOJ-OGR- 00022458