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Page GHISLAINE MAXWELL: I never -- TODD BLANCHE: And yes, young -- young women and -- and is a crime. Children are -- is a crime. SLAINE MAXWELL: Absolutely. BLANCHE: But even women over the age of 18, if if Mr. Epstein encouraged these men or whomever to get massages and have inappropriate sexual contact with the masseuses, that's -- that's a separate issue. Maybe -- maybe slightly nuanced, but did you ever know him to do that? GHISLAINE MAXWELL: No. I never did absolutely myself. I never heard him ask someone. never -- I never heard that. I never -- no one -- in the entire time I was with him or friends with him, or had anyone, no one ever reported to me or came to me and said that anything inappropriate happened or was upset by -- I never saw a tear. I never saw ever any of that. TODD BLANCHE: And when you say, "No one reported to me," meaning like the masseuses -- GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Never. TODD BLANCHE: -- or any of the house MAGNA®© LEGAL SERVICES DOJ-OGR-00022481