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Page 91 as a masseuse was somebody called PDXONINSDNXeieng. She was, I don't know, mid, late 20s. Professional masseuse. TODD BLANCHE: And was this somethi happened early on in your relationship or -- a again, I know we're talking about the '90s, but we talking about early '90s or is this later o GHISLAINE MAXWELL: So in terms of massage, I am a -- I have a lot of injuries. lot of dangerous sports and have had multiple serious accidents, and walk without any lameness, because of physical therapy and massage. I've -- that to me is a very -- it's medicinal for me. So Epstein, whatever his massage Ltuation, whatever -- he loved massage. And if t somebody who I thought was a good masseuse or masseur, I introduced them. And he -- because I got them, and he asked did, and I said yes. And that's -- I'm ty sure that would've -- well, I don't remember. '92, from the beginning. TODD BLANCHE: So -- so go ahead. So then what happens over the next, you know, like there's been -- there's a ton of writing and a ton of, guess, testimony as well, but also public reporting, MAGNA®© LEGAL SERVICES DOJ-OGR-00022483