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Page 151 all I went to the Clinton -- well, I first o White House with Epstein once for, I think it was a historical, like one of those benefits and I met the President then, but like a thousand other people shook his hand. Then after that, I had a very -- a good friend of mine that was the mayor -- known to be the Mayor of Miami Beach, Philip Levine, and Philip and the President were very good friends. And Philip was a very -- and I were very good friends, and so actually was introduced to the President post his coming out of the White House and became friendly with him, because of Philip Levine. DAVID MARKUS: Because of what? GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Philip Levine. TODD BLANCHE: There's some names that have been publicly associated with Mr. Epstein that just want to ask you if you know about: Piers Morgan? GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Is friendly with who? TODD BLANCHE: With Mr. Epstein. GHISLAINE MAXWELL: I have no idea. doubt it. TODD BLANCHE: Yeah. There's no trick question. I'm not trying to -- MAGNA®© LEGAL SERVICES DOJ-OGR-00022543