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Page 166 Thursday, July 24th. And the recording device is now on. TODD BLANCHE: So when we stopped to take a break, we were talking about what has been publicly discussed as a black book or the Epstein list. And that's wher W ar So you said you think you might that you're aware of kind of the origin of narrative. GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Right. I just want reiterate again, there is no list that I am aware of. I've never, at any time, at least during the period of time when I was -- TODD BLANCHE: Okay. GHISLAINE MAXWELL: -- present. The origin of this story, I believe, begins -- or it has a beginning in 2009, and then it has a prequel but we have to start in 2009. In 2009, there is Epstein is, I think, jail, and there are civil suits taking place. ny of these are coming out of a disgraced law firm, thstein Adler -- Rothstein, Rosenfeldt & Adler. At that law firm is a lawyer who started there in April, May, 2009, called Brad Edwards. In 2009, allegedly the FBI gets a call in October of MAGNA®© LEGAL SERVICES DOJ-OGR- 00022558