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Page 177 blackmail. I never heard that. I never saw it and never imagined it TODD BLANCHE: While we're on this topic, just -- and again, I now we're jumping around and we've been going on it for a while, so I apologize. But there's recently been reports about a birthday book that you assembled for Mr. Epstein, think, for his 50th birthday in 2003. GHISLAINE MAXWELL: That's true. TODD BLANCHE: What do you know about GHISLAINE MAXWELL: So, my mum did a birthday book for my father at his 60th. And when Epstein would talk about his 50th, he said, don't know what I'm going to do. And I said, well these are nice things, my mom did this book for my dad. He said, I love that idea. He said, can you help coordinate it? And he organized who -- he called a lot of the people himself. I coordinated the putting together of the book. And some -- in some instances, I called people that asked them to contribute -- TODD BLANCHE: And what was in the book? Like what was the as of the people you called? GHISLAINE MAXWELL: It's his 50th MAGNA®© LEGAL SERVICES DOJ-OGR-00022569