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Page 185 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: So there would've -- there's two things -- well, three ways. So I know t the house itself, John Alessi had a Rolodex that he kept the names and numbers of all the people that came to the house so that he could call. So --because I only was with Epstein, even at best, half the time. So when I was there, he had like his chief o sta who could find whatever he needed. And when I wasn't there, he had to rely on somebody else, right? So it'd be that John Alessi or whoever else. So everybody -- whoever was traveling with him or wherever he was, he needed somebody else to access information. So he had an assistant chief who was his secretary, who would be the one that would update his computer, you know, like everybody has an address book. TODD BLANCHE: But was what you're describing, which I'm not -- it makes sense. I'm just -- was that a list of masseuses or a list of people that might need to be contacted, which would, necessarily, include a lot of masseuses? GHISLAINE MAXWELL: That's -- the latt TODD BLANCHE: And did you update that? Like were you part of -- were you one of the people MAGNA®© LEGAL SERVICES DOJ-OGR-00022577