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Page 192 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: All right. TODD BLANCHE: Do you remember any conversations with Epstein about a book that Mr. wrote called Space Relations? GHISLAINE MAXWELL: I'v never heard of TODD BLANCHE: About aliens and sex? GHISLAINE ELL: Okay. No. TODD BLANCHE: Do you know whether -- well, have you ever met the former Attorney General of the United States Bill Barr? GHISLAINE MAXWELL: No. TODD BLANCHE: Do you remember whether Epstein knew him or whether his name ever came up conversations you had with Mr. Epstein? GHISLAINE MAXWELL: I don't recall any. TODD BLANCHE: Okay. Did you have a relationship or know -- I'm using "relationship," but appreciate you don't like that word. Do you have -- did you know Mr. Epstein's brother Mark Epstei GHISLAINE ELL: Yes. TODD BLANCHE: How did you know him? GHISLAINE ELL: Through Jeffrey. TODD BLANCHE: How would you describe your MAGNA®© LEGAL SERVICES DOJ-OGR- 00022584