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Page 195 somebody else -- would somebody else have done that? GHISLAINE MAXWELL: I did ask some people. don't remember Mr. Trump. I don't remember who did ask, but Epstein also asked people himself directly. BLANCHI] SLAINE MAXWELL: So it could have happened that way, if it happened at all. TODD BLANCHE: Where is that? DIEGO PESTANA: You mentioned GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Yes. DIEGO PESTANA: What was his involvement? GHISLAINE MAXWELL: This would've been in the later 2000's. So I do not know how they met, but do know that they -- I don't know j Friendly would be the right word. I don't know that, but I know that they saw each other and only because my father -- you know, anything that touches Israel or the state of Israel, I'm always interested in, because my father loved Israel and so I pay attention to it and we have ties to, you know, to Israel. TODD BLANCHE: When you said it was later ELL: Ties meaning family rel MAGNA®© LEGAL SERVICES DOJ-OGR-00022587