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Page spoke with him? GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Maybe 2016, 2017, maybe 2016 -- 2015, 2016, 2017 in that area, believe. TO! BLANCHE: And -- whe thinking abou that last time that yo talked -- bee talking to him a lot, and stopped, or was that a one-off time and it infrequent at that point? GHISLAINE MAXWELL: I really wasn't in communicati . The only communications I had with him was in -- with regards to the civil suits, the civil suit that I found myself in, the defamation suit I found myself in. I needed help, I needed information, and I didn't have what I needed. And so that was really what it was -- that what drove it, was me trying to get myself out of this situation, which I -- ultimately led to where am today. And so when -- when all that -- when that -- I don't remember even if I stopped talking to him before that, I think he was -- I thought he was angry with me anyway. He didn't like what I did, and he -- I wasn't interested in what he had to say to me, MAGNA®© LEGAL SERVICES DOJ-OGR-00022600