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Page 209 TODD BLANCHE: What did you think he was angry with you about? GHISLAINE MAXWELL: I think he was angry that I had even said that I had referred to her being a liar. He said I should have not said anything but. TODD BLANCHE: When the civil suits that were ongoing before Mr. Epstein's death? GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Yes. TODD BLANCHE: Did your lawyers coordinate with his lawyers, like in discovery and things like that or anything? GHISLA : : I don't think we coordinated in -- I I'm not sure. TODD 1] : Okay. GHISLA : ELL: I don't want to misspeak. IT don't I there was some degree of communication for sure. I just don't know the degree that that took place. So definitely -- I mean, I was definitely hoping for him to be more helpful. And was definitely, coordinating is not a good word, because that sounds like I was trying to make -- align myself. That's not where we were going here, but tely trying to get help. As in documents tion that I could use to defend myself. MAGNA®© LEGAL SERVICES DOJ-OGR- 00022601