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on TIMA OB WN TE INTERVIEW ae 2 2 TODD BLANCHE: I am going to ask everybody to put their name on the record here. SPENCER HORN: Good morning. My name is Assistant Special Agent in Charge, Spencer Horn of FBI, New York. Today we're doing a proffer of Ms. Maxwell. The date is July 24th and the time is 10:12 a.m. This interview is being recorded. TODD BLANCHE: And my name is Todd Blanche. I'm the Deputy Attorney General. And before we start formally asking questions of Ms. Maxwell, I'm going to put on the record everybody that's in this room, in addition to me, starting with you, Diego. DIEGO PESTANA: Diego Pestana, Associate Deputy Attorney General. TODD BLANCHE: And then you heard from Special Agent in Charge Horn. Mark Beard from the United States Marshal Service is here as well. And then David. DAVID MARKUS: Yes. This is David Oscar Markus, and I'm counsel for Ghislaine Maxwell. LEAH SAFFIAN: My name is Leah Saffian and Page 3 I'm counsel for Ghislaine Maxwell. MELISSA MADRIGAL: My name is Melissa Madrigal and I'm counsel for Ghislaine Maxwell. TODD BLANCHE: Go ahead. GHISLAINE MAXWELL: And I'm -- I'm Ghislaine Maxwell. TODD BLANCHE: Good morning, Ms. Maxwell. How are you? GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Good morning, Mr. Blanche. TODD BLANCHE: Good. Okay. So before we started recording, we met for a few minutes. I introduced myself and we -- we've chatted and now I've told you that we were going on the record. And before we start asking questions, I know that you've been given, by your lawyer, a copy of what's called a proffer agreement. And I just want to spend two minutes making sure that you understand what -- what governs our conversation today. The most important part of this agreement is that this isn't a cooperation agreement, meaning that by you meeting with us today, we're really just meeting, I'm not promising to do anything. MAGNA®© AANA FWNF DUO WAIHI PWN EE 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 ornare wWndeE RoR row Page 4 I'm not promising to ask Judge Nathan or any of the judges that's been assigned to your case to do anything. It -- we're just talking. And so that's the most important -- important part of -- of this agreement. However, almost as important is the fact that what this agreement does for you is it gives you protection. So what it means is that the government cannot use what you say today against you, with some exceptions, which we'll talk about in a minute. But whatever you talk about today, you have what's called immunity. So that means that the words that you say today, we cannot use against you in a case in chief, if we were ever to bring one. Okay? GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Thank you. TODD BLANCHE: All right. There's exceptions to that. The most meaningful one of which is that, if you say something today that's not true, that's a lie, we can bring a prosecution against you for what's called false statements. So I'm a federal officer, I have several officers here. The FBI 1s here. And if -- if you lie to someone that's -- like me or like Special Agent Horn, it's a crime. So you have to be Page 5 truthful. The other exception to this, that doesn't necessarily apply directly to you, but if there ever was aretrial in your case, or if there ever was a -- a criminal case -- a future criminal case against you, and your lawyer or you said something different or took a position that's different than what you say today, we can then cross examine you or a witness, based upon what you say today. So it's a little bit nuanced, meaning I can't use what you say against you in our case in chief. However, if you were to testify or if your lawyer called a witness to testify, and they said something that is totally different than what you say today, we could then cross examine you or the witness and say, hey, do you remember when we met with Ms. Wax -- when we met with Ms. Maxwell back in July of 2025? She told us and then say what she said. Okay? GHISLAINE MAXWELL: I understand. TODD BLANCHE: Okay. Other than that, you -- I -- I know you didn't have a lot of time this morning to meet with -- with -- with Mr. Markus, but did -- did you have a chance to go over this briefly with him? 2 (Pages 2 to 5) LEGAL SERVICES DOJ-OGR-00022657