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on TIMA OB WN TE Page 6 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: I did. TODD BLANCHE: Okay. All right. So I've already signed it, as has Special Agent Horn -- GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Okay. TODD BLANCHE: -- and Mr. Markus signed it as well. So you got a pen, please sign it -- GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Right here? TODD BLANCHE: -- right where it says "client." Yes. And I will provide a copy of this to -- to your lawyer so you guys have it. GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Thank you. TODD BLANCHE: Okay, thank you. So Ms. Maxwell, about a week and a half ago or two weeks ago -- SPENCER HORN: Can you see the light blinking on there? On the Sony? Yeah, there it is. TODD BLANCHE: Okay. We're just confirming that it works and it does. Ms. Maxwell, I guess about a week and a half or two weeks ago, Mr. Markus reached out to me and said that -- that you wanted to speak with somebody from the government about, not only your case, but about everything that's been in the media and that's been publicized about Mr. Epstein in your Page 7 case. GHISLAINE MAXWELL: That's -- TODD BLANCHE: Did he -- GHISLAINE MAXWELL: That's true and I did speak to him and I did ask him if -- oh, and did tell him that I would be very keen to talk to anyone, because no one from the government, at any time, ever in the -- since the inception of the case, so dating back to the early 2000s, has ever spoken to me, and indeed, I believe ever reached out to me at any time to even speak to me. And that includes up to when I was indicted and prosecuted. I believe that -- or I understand, I should say, rather, that my attorneys, at the time, did tell the government that I wanted to speak to them, because I was very keen to meet with anyone, so that I could tell or have them ask me any question. I've never had any problem to -- to speak to anybody. And I offered myself and I kept asking, if they would meet with me, so I could talk to them and for whatever reason -- TODD BLANCHE: Okay. GHISLAINE MAXWELL: -- that was not happening. TODD BLANCHE: Okay. [have questions MAGNA®© OBATNDOBRPWNF COW WOAIDHD OF WN FP MMM NMNDND ?t OP WNRrR ODO wYw DAA ANHBWNHRF CDW WAIATBWN PB NNN NNDND ! Op WNHER OW Page 8 that I want to ask you, but I'm not -- if there's a path that -- a question that I'm not asking, that you think should be asked, I -- I invite you to volunteer. Same thing goes to your lawyers. Just to start a little bit very briefly, can you talk about when you first met Mr. Epstein. I know that goes back a while. And just very generally talk about your relationship with Mr. Epstein, from the time you met him all the way up until -- until his death. GHISLAINE MAXWELL: I met Mr. Epstein in 1991. My -- [had -- I had never heard of him or met him before. And no one in my family had ever either. My father never knew him. And I'll explain why that is the case. I met -- TODD BLANCHE: Where did you -- where -- where did you meet him? GHISLAINE MAXWELL: I had a girlfriend who -- I -- I was -- yeah. I had moved to America, briefly, in -- well, I'd moved to America in 1990. TODD BLANCHE: Okay. GHISLAINE MAXWELL: I -- well "moved," that's a big word. I'd come to visit America in 1990. I had been running my own company up until that time, which was a company called Maxwell's Page 9 Corporate Gifts. And I had also been working for my father at the time. I had multiple jobs with him. I was -- in 1990 I was working with a -- a new company of his, a new -- anew newspaper that he was launching, called The European. And I was in charge of launching a magazine to go with the -- The European. And I was traveling at that time from England to America, because my father was looking to -- well, he'd also bought McMillan the -- the publishing house. And he had purchased the New York Daily News. And it's truth that my father always wanted me to come back, full time and work for him, but that's a much longer story I don't think we need to go into at this time. So -- but I was always working with him. There was no escaping it were -- as it were to -- to work for him. So in 1990, I had come over to New York, to help look at some of that. He was having some advertising issues with the New York Daily News. And in fact, I met -- I may have met Donald Trump at that time, because my father was friendly with him and liked him very much. And I think, should be said (Pages 6 to 9) LEGAL SERVICES DOJ-OGR- 00022658