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AAD OPFWNF DH OATH UBF WNY HE Page 130 who's a famous journalist, actually is a very well known journalist. And when I -- and he had -- he was friends with the Barings, Barings Bank and he had like, sort of -- TODD BLANCHE: That was, you're talking about -- GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Before he met me. TODD BLANCHE: Before, so in the -- GHISLAINE MAXWELL: '80s. TODD BLANCHE: -- '80s. Okay. GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Yes. He was dating Eva Andersson, Miss Sweden, I think. I don't know when she became Miss Sweden. TODD BLANCHE: Okay. So earlier when you said that he met them later -- GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Yes. TODD BLANCHE: -- you think he may have met some members of the Royal Family or certainly British high society. GHISLAINE MAXWELL: He met -- I don't know about the Royal Family, but certainly high society. TODD BLANCHE: Okay. GHISLAINE MAXWELL: And the reason why I know this is because, sometime we can -- this is a Page 131 documentable thing. Docu -- whatever. There's a photograph that can give you the date, because I don't remember what the date is of this, so there's something that will peg whatever this date is. I don't remember when that is. Epstein went to London without me. He often went everywhere without me, but he was in London without me, which was decently unusual because London's my hometown. But anyway, he went without me. And he went to a big event in, I think it was in the -- anyway, it was a big event. It's on -- it's on -- it's on -- it’s on the news. It's like a -- there's photographs of it. And he, I don't know if he sat with Diana or he met Diana and he'd already met her. I don't know, but this, I believe was organized by Rosa. And so there's -- I don't know if she was being set up as a date for him, maybe because she -- I don't want to speak bad of Diana, but -- I'm not going to do that. TODD BLANCHE: Okay. So that was pre-meeting you. GHISLAINE MAXWELL: No, that was -- that event happened when we were -- oO TN OA PF WN EF NNNNNNRPRPRPRPRPRPRP RRP BR OBWNHEF OO DAAIAUOKRWNHE Ow oO TN OA PWN EE NNNNFPRPRPRPRPRPRPRP RPE WNHrRF OW ATA UR WHE OO Page 132 TODD BLANCHE: Oh, okay. That was (Inaudible). GHISLAINE MAXWELL: -- and I would -- sometime -- TODD BLANCHE: Understood. GHISLAINE MAXWELL: - - no, it's when we were -- TODD BLANCHE: Okay. GHISLAINE MAXWELL: -- I'm not going to say together, but when -- how about this? When I was his employee, that's a bit better. TODD BLANCHE: Okay. So now moving back to the 2000s, did there come a time when Mr. Epstein met Prince Andrew? GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Yes. TODD BLANCHE: And others in the Royal Family or just Prince Andrew as, far as you know? GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Well, so as -- as much as I can piece it together, all right, first of all let's sust state, I did not introduce him to Prince Andrew. I did not introduce him to Prince Andrew or to Sarah Ferguson. That is a flat untruth. I'll start with that. So now I'm going to tell you how he did Page 133 actually meet him. So I -- if you find me that photograph, I can date that time when he met Princess Diana at that event. I -- and based on that, I'll be able to tell you if it's pre or post that event, because I haven't looked it up and I've never bothered to check. So Lynn Forester, who was a client or some type of client, or I think she actually tried to date him or might have dated him, for the record. She was in -- do you want to ask me something? TODD BLANCHE: No, go ahead. GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Okay. She was -- she had a house or she rented a house in the Vineyard. I think it was in the Vineyard or Nantucket, I can't remember now which one it was. It was one of those. It was either in Nantucket or the Vineyard, and invited Epstein to go, and I believe that's when he met Prince Andrew. However, I believe that before that event, he had gone to the Bahamas and had hung out with Sarah Ferguson. And Sarah had called Epstein and had arranged with Lynn, or I don’t know. I don't know. Now I'm speculating. Anyway, long and short, he met Andrew up there. TODD BLANCHE: And I'm not holding you to MAGNA® 34 (Pages 130 to 133) LEGAL SERVICES DOJ-OGR-00022689