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ABAD OBFWNF OHM WAT HANO B WN EP Page 142 feet in total. Well, maybe that; is that right? Maybe nine -- LEAH SAFFIAN: Yes. GHISLAINE MAXWELL: It is on three floors, however. So you're talking about a little -- it's a jewel. It used to be a stable for a horse. It was the stables for the big house. It was a little poor man's home behind the rich man's home. It's a jewel. It's a -- was a gorgeous little place, but it is the size of a nut. If you make a noise, let's say, a little burp or something you don't want to -- you'd hear it. It just -- Where she says that they had relations in a bathroom, I -- first of all, the bath is an old Victorian bath. I could -- I'm quite -- quite small, it's tight for me. I put my brother in there to see what would happen. And it looks like a blivet, which is a sausage in like a very tight skin. So her description of whatever the two people were doing tn the tub, that wouldn't work. The bathroom itself 1s so small, you can't lie flat on the floor. So it couldn't happen on the floor, because you physically, physically can't. This bathroom is too small to even be on the floor. And then the kicker of all kickers, is Page 143 that because the bathroom was so small, I decorated it to try make it look huge, which meant that I put mirrors the whole way around it. And what was so fun about being in there is that if you stood in the bathroom, you saw like a hundred of you, like you do if you Were in -- DAVID MARKUS: A fun house. GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Yeah, well, Alice in Wonderland or one of those things that you would see yourself going, stretching everything. And the image. If you said you were -- let's say you were, let's say that was telling the truth. She could say she was having sex with 5,000 generations of the Royal Family, because that's how far back you could see yourself. There is no way in God's green earth if that had taken place, that this is something that you would miss, because it's -- you couldn't miss it. If you were standing there, you'd see the whole -- the FBI, the whole Department of Justice standing behind you. It's like, no. TODD BLANCHE: Did you -- LEAH SAFFIAN: And also -- let me just -- also explain where the tap was 1n the bathtub. GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Oh, well it's an old ODr~wAnA OAR WNHeRF OCW WAIN OO PWN PB NONMNNMNNN DNDN 1! OP WNHR OO onan OB WN TE Page 144 Vic- had a tap. So if you were in -- if you were in the top, right, it might -- this is the tub. My tap would be here, I think -- no. TODD BLANCHE: So you think it's kind of logistically and physically not something that could have happened. GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Well, there's that. And there's just -- Andrew would -- he's so English. He's so -- he had a tie on. DAVID MARKUS: Do you think there's any way it could have happened or no? GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Absolutely on -- no way -- no how, absolutely not. Wait, I haven't finished. So on her -- TODD BLANCHE: Go -- GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Oh, sorry. DAVID MARKUS: No, go ahead. Go ahead. GHISLAINE MAXWELL: I'm sorry. TODD BLANCHE: Go ahead. Go, go, go. Finish. Please, go ahead. GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Sorry. Can I finish? TODD BLANCHE: Okay. GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Okay. When all this nonsense took place, where this whole story with the picture and the this and the that and this bullshit, Page 145 I believe that this whole thing was manufactured, and I can point you to some potentially corroborating evidence of this. So when she gave the photograph to the FBI in Australia -- DIEGO PESTANA: Just to be clear, the photo, you're talking about, you're talking about the famous one where -- GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Yeah, I have a image of it here. Who wants to look at it? DIEGO PESTANA: -- where Prince Andrew is holding and you're in the background? GHISLAINE MAXWELL: The fake, just to be clear. So on the back of that, and this is in the discovery by the way. I don't know if it's in -- I don't know where, which discovery I saw it in now. But this -- she wrote, she, perenne wrote in the back that it was a picture that was taken in January of 2000 and -- on 2000 or 2001, I don't remember. TODD BLANCHE: Okay. GHISLAINE MAXWELL: So now in her handwriting, that she's giving the FBI this picture, suddenly now it's March. So how do you go from her writing it's January to March. It's because it MAGNA® 37 (Pages 142 to 145) LEGAL SERVICES DOJ-OGR- 00022692