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Page 222 don't -- it -- maybe I did, contemporaneously, but Simply wouldn't know today. if there was an entity, let's say account X, if I really set that up myself or whether they said, we'tre doing this and the money's coming or whatever. But in no substantive way -- I can't think of the right word. DAVID MARKUS: Did you have control GHISLA : : I had no control, is I'm saying. TODD BLANCHE: So n -- when government -- when there was testimony or government admitted evidenc that showed, for example, $5 million in 2002 coming from Epstein to you, okay, what you're saying is that that may -- that happened, but that the you there, wasn't money that -- he wasn't giving you money. GHISLAINE MAXWELL: I'm not going to say that for everything, because maybe there wer accounts that money was sent to me. But that I know -- like the helicopter, I can definitively say. I'd have to look at all of them to be accurate for you. But to explain how or why I could be receiving monies, and I certainly did. So I'm not MAGNA®© LEGAL SERVICES DOJ-OGR-00022765