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Page 236 And I was at an event for Sergey Brin, of Google. And Sergey had arranged for -- his birthday. And we were -- or a bunch of ven remember how many we were, but no Maybe -- I don't know. f could be wrong. If it was 30 or 50, remember. I'm sorry. Went to another friend's island. Somebody called Mr. Pigozzi in the Caribbean and -- not with Epstein, he was not there, to celebrate Sergey's birthday. And we were there together for, I want to say, three or four days, something like that in my memory. And Mr. Musk was present for that. TODD BLANCHE: And that was the first time you met him, as far as you know? GHISLAINE MAXWELL: As { I remember, TODD BLANCHE: Did you meet -- did you know his brother, Mr. Musk's brother? GHISLAINE MAXWELL: I don't know if ever met him. I know that he has a brother and don't think I met im. TODD BLANCHE: from that time in MAGNA®© LEGAL SERVICES DOJ-OGR-00022779